Suggestion about teams

[mrsdrake]

I remember a discussion about people who frequently change teams in order to get a better team bonus at the end of the month. It was brought up that this hurt some teams and helped others. It just seemed unfair, but I don't remember if a solution was found.

Here's my suggestion.

Limit the number of times a month that someone can switch teams. Or make it so that people have to be on a team for a certain amount of time before they can join another team.

[inge]

Sounds like a great idea, but is this a big problem?

[mrsdrake]

I don't think it's a big problem. I just remember reading a lot of posts and comments about it at the old forum.

[eagle27]

I honestly do not see a benefit to the surfer to be changing teams in order to get a better bonus, and it certainly would not help the Teams to be chopping and changing all the time. The surfer would still have to d the minimum requirement to get the bonus and as that is 5000 seems a waste why not just stay where they are if they are happy with the Team???

And I do not think the Team Leaders would be happy with people jumping in and out of their teams during the month, I personally couldn't be bothered, bonus are good but I think the fellowship in the Teams is a far greater prize if you have the right dynamics.

Sandra

[inge]

I do agree. Fortunately our team is private so anyone who leaves must ask to be reinstated. Of course, a low level of loyalty would make sure that it could be done only once.
I would like to make a point: I keep track of everyone who is or has been a member of the team. For anyone who asks to join I can check if they've been a member before.

[eagle27]

I do agree. Fortunately our team is private so anyone who leaves must ask to be reinstated. Of course, a low level of loyalty would make sure that it could be done only once.
I would like to make a point: I keep track of everyone who is or has been a member of the team. For anyone who asks to join I can check if they've been a member before.

I would have to agree here have only been a member of 2 Teams but do not have time to chop and change. So Inge if ever I leave you have my full permission not to let me back.

Sandra

[inge]

Well if you have left the team for a while it doesn't mean you're not allowed to come back. It all depends on the circumstances.
We have had members who have gone to another team but chose to come back. I take that as a confirmation that our team is a good place to be.

[eagle27]

Well if you have left the team for a while it doesn't mean you're not allowed to come back. It all depends on the circumstances.
We have had members who have gone to another team but chose to come back. I take that as a confirmation that our team is a good place to be.

I have to agree that we have a great Team Dynamics with all levels doing their part. I'm not leaving by the way.

Sandra:)

[inge]

Of course not Sandra. I would come straight down under and get you back! :)

[erzsebet108]

I think it depends on the team this question and also on the leader of each team.
If the team requirement is to high or there exist too many restrictions maybe some members don't feel comfortable in that team. Of course it can be the opposite situation.
The other question is the leaders. If the leader is not so much communicative with the members, or he/she is only with a part of the members again may cause some inconveniences. Also it depends on the contest/reward system of that team. If these contests are, saying, only for the topsurfers the rest of the team may feeling useless or unsatisfied.
And of course it depends on us as members, what we want, if we like communicate each others, helping or even stimulate/encourage each others, in what kind of team we want to be.
The team description is too short, so many of us join a team only for trying how it is. Most of us know how is only the team in what we're.
I agree jumping always in/out a team is not a solution and is not good nor for the team or even for that member. But it have to let the freedom for all of us to choose what we want.
The problem i think is the competition and not leaving or staying in a team. For this i suggest below. Each member of a team letting leave or kicked off a team only at the end of the month. What i mean is this: if i join a team i have to stay in that team at least until the end of the month and also the team has no right kicked me off only also at the end of the month. So i have to support the team at least until the end of month but also that team has to support me until then. So any change (to join, to leave, to kick off etc) in a team is being made only at the end of each month. I think it would be fair-play as well for the team and for the members, and it doesn't affect the competition.

My friendly regards,
Erzsebet

[inge]

You're so right Erzsebet.
I used to boot inactive members every week, but it turned out not to be very practical (and not very kind! :) ) so now I do it only once a month.
Your suggestion is not a bad one, but
1) I think the team leader should decide when and why to boot someone, and
2) maybe people who left should not be allowed to join another team until next month. That way they would "suffer" from being without a team for some time, and they couldn't change too often.

[inge]

Think it -- and Tim does it! :)

[eagle27]

Well said Erzsebet.

Sandra

[erzsebet108]

Thanks both of you,
first for reading and meditate upon my pretty long reply to this thread.

1) Dear Inge, as a leader of course you've right and any leader has right to accept or reject a member. And many members are kicked off mostly for their inactivity, or they left the team by their own decision.
2) when a member leave a team sometimes may "suffer" the team also, because all their "contribution" for the team are retreated from that one. It's true that the member "suffers" more.

Punishing someone by not allowing to join a team three months i don't think it's a good idea, and even to not re-accepted him/her (of course if the leader agrees). It can be many reasons why someone leave a team or join a team. But this shouldn't affect the team competition. That's why i've suggested all changes to be made at the end of the months or can be a very short period when can be decide about all these kind of changes. For ex. this period can be 3-5 days like 30th of March - the 2nd of April.
I agree if a member leave a team or is kicked off he/she to not be allowed join an another one only for the next month as you said. But also to be fair-play would be accepted new members by the team also only for the next month. Exceptions can be for the new members of SX
If i know well the leaders have right to create some rules inside the teams. The general rules for that team should be made known in the short description, not only how many sites has to be surfed. Of course the "little secrets" of each team no.

These are just my opinions,
as you said Tim has to decide finally about this question.

My friendly regards and once again thank you,
Erzsebet

Happy Easter to all!

[inge]

Right again, Erzebet.
This could be done in many ways, and if I remember right, a member who is booted from his team may join another immediately, while someone who leaves must wait 30 days. So what would I do if I wanted to change teams? Well, I would ask the team leader kindly to boot me so I could join another.

I agree with you that 30 days is a long time, and I would have preferred, let's say, a quarantine that lasted only for the rest of the month. A person who left on March 31st, could join again April 1.st. But then, if he left on April 2.nd, he couldn't join another until May 1st.
But Tim has many considerations to make. Perhaps his routines makes it more difficult to implement such a plan. I don't know. What I do know is that Tim listens to the users, and as time goes by and this solution turns out to have a potential for improvement ... Well, it will be improved.

[erzsebet108]

I think a bit you've misunderstood me.
30 days waiting for re-accepting/ joining an another team is not so long. Three months is too long indeed.The short period to which i've referred was only the for the decision of the leaders, i mean in this period the leaders can take the right decision for every member to kick off or stay on.
Anyway i've seen Tim has taken his decision in this question, and i think it's a right one.

Thank you,
Inge

Erzsebet

Right again, Erzebet.

I agree with you that 30 days is a long time, and I would have preferred, let's say, a quarantine that lasted only for the rest of the month. A person who left on March 31st, could join again April 1.st. But then, if he left on April 2.nd, he couldn't join another until May 1st.

[dehawkinz]

Hi erzsebet,

Where is the 3 months your quoting coming from?

This is what Tim said in his post
When you join a team, you will not be able to switch teams for 30 days. You can leave the team at any time and be teamless if you really want, but you won't be able to join another team until the 30 days are up.

There is one exception: If you are booted, you will not have to wait the 30 days.

the emphasis is mine

DeHawkinz

[erzsebet108]

I'm not quoted from anywhere. So stay calm, it was just an example.
Maybe i've read in one of the older thread and it remains in my mind.

Erzsebet

[dehawkinz]

LOL

no problem, just trying to get to the bottom of the question :)

DeHawkinz

[nsant46]

Sincerely, I don't feel this problem.
Noemi